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On June 20, 2011 at 11:46 pm
I think we are all missing the point. It’s not really about if you are pro-spanking or not. This story is about whether or not the government should be allowed to get involved with said spanking. This story is pretty scant on details, such as; was the mother in trouble for other things too? Does she have a record of child abuse? If this is any kind of first offense or if what happened is really all that was said, then I don’t think the judicial system had any right to get involved. My husband is a social worker and you wouldn’t believe the horror stories he sees where there is little punishment. One has to admit, even if you are against spanking, it is a parent’s choice not Uncle Sam’s. I have a 6-month old and I’m not sure if we are going to spank or not. That being said, I also think it’s ok for your child to have a little healthy fear of a parent when necessary. Such as discovering you in the kitchen when he or she is sneaking home at 2 in the morning in high school. You’re dang right I feared my parents when I knew I was caught doing something wrong! That, however, doesn’t mean I didn’t turn to them when I needed them either! Also, just one quick note for anyone is going to think that I want my child to fear me all the time. You are an idiot and you didn’t read my comments right.
by Nicole
On June 21, 2011 at 4:15 am
I was not spanked as a child. I turned out fine. No arrests, drug charges, not even a parking ticket. I will not spank my children either. And just because I spare the rod, doesn’t mean I hate my kids.
by michelle
On June 21, 2011 at 6:18 am
As I’ve stated here, if you don’t disipline your kids, they will be out of control! Like the 5 yr. old across the street from me….screaming the F-word loud enough for the whole neighborhood to hear…or the other child I know, who throws a tantrum as soon as he doesn’t get his way, and when I sayy throw, I mean he grabs stuff in the house and throws it around! I spanked my kids, they are good kids and they understand why they got spanked. My son is 18 and my daughter is 12..of course I don’t spank them any more…but there is no need to now…I was spanked as a child, I totally understand why it was needed…I love my parents, they are my best friends, I never feared them for spanking me. My parents always said to me afterward, “do you understand why you got spanked?” if I didn’t understand they explained….you got to make sure the kid understands why…then they don’t do it again and they respect the spanking! the government can bite me…my children will not turn out to be the ignorant, rude, belligerent children I see out there….
by Sarah
On June 21, 2011 at 9:10 am
I think the grandmother and the 214th District Court Judge, Jose Longoria, are in need of a good spanking.
by tim
On June 21, 2011 at 9:43 am
The judge needs to be spanked!!!
by Maryann
On June 21, 2011 at 9:52 am
Today people are to much in everyone elses business. I have 3 sons (19,5&4). I used to spank my eldest son, only when needed and he was ok (no bruises, red marks nothing), til one day he feel shortly after a spanking. The teacher called HRS on me; becaue he was asked how that happened an told them it happened after being spanked. I was told by the police that you CAN spank so long as you don’t leave a mark. I never lost my son, cause the investigation was found to be unfounded. But I never spoke loudly or or spanked him again. Now my child has been in and out of DJJ for attacking people, stealing and drugs. He feels that no adult can do anything and that he can do whatever he likes. All be cause I was to afraid to do anything. I have figured that time outs and giving bid rewards work for my younger two. They are learning that Mommy and Daddy won’t spank us (unless really needed…running in to the road). They know we are gonna spend a nice sunny day in bed, not at the pool. At this point it works. But to many people stick their noses where they shouldn’t. So to many people are becoming to scared to do anything like I once was. My family will never be the same; Because someone else thought they knew what they were doing. She thjought she was protecting my son…who is protecting all the people he has hurt. Now look at my son, who runs even from the cops.
by Kayla
On June 21, 2011 at 11:14 am
This is horrifying. Everyone has a different opinion on how they would like to discipline and that should be left ALONE. The government is becoming more and more aggressive and controlling of families. And apparently we as the American public are OK with it. It is unacceptable for the judge to make such a blatant statement about spanking being morally wrong. What foundation is that based on? Simply his opinion. Leave American parents ALONE.
by Angela
On June 21, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Yet it is still legal to paddle kids in school in the state of Texas… Fort Worth Star Telegram mention of bill going before Governor Perry allowing parents to “Opt Out” of paddling as a punishment for their children while in school
by Yocheved
On June 21, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Have you ever tried to use reason and logic with a two year old who is in the midst of hysterics? Sometimes a short, sharp swat is what’s needed to help them snap out of it, refocus, and actually HEAR what you are trying to say to them. At such a young age, they can’t control their emotions and impulses, and if you can’t redirect them with words then sometimes you need a little physical intervention.
For a slightly older child who is defiant or refusing to accept reason, consequences need to be made clear. For some kids, a time out is the worst thing in the world, but for others it’s an exercise in sneaking out of the corner and causing further aggravation. Some kids will be horribly upset if you take away the TV, others will just shrug and grab a book. Some kids will be corrected by spanking, some will just look at you like “is that all you got, old man?” (believe me, I’ve seen that look!)
Bottom line, is that you have to know your kid’s temperement, maturity level and personality, and use the parenting tools that will work appropriately.
by Tina
On June 21, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Wasting the court, the judge, the lawyers involved over this spank, is what is criminal.
There are hundreds of deadbeat parents hurting their children sexually, selling them into slavery, not feeding their children, neglecting them, and abusing them beyond any sort of thing related to spanking.
Why are they not investigating them..? Searching out parents intending on physically spiritually, emotionally hurting their children or others..?
I spank. The bible tells us to discipline with the rod. He has also given them a padded butt to handle the discipline. Consistency is the answer.
I think in this case a disgruntled grandma found evidence of a possible chance to take on the last child. She wanted custody, she needed anything she could get to give her that.
Unfortunatly, the child is the one who is going to pay the price for this. The child who will be hearing why she was taken from her mom because of being abused. She will then be out of her natural environment, her family unit. It’s the child that should concern everyone, not the fact that the mom got 5 years for spanking.
by Jeremy
On June 21, 2011 at 2:28 pm
And it’s no wonder that kids these days so unruly and get into trouble, parents are too afraid to be just that, parents! Why be a parent and risk the law coming after you, just let society and the State raise the kids for you.
by Carolina
On June 21, 2011 at 2:59 pm
I am SO glad my daughter was born before all of this ‘politically correct’ nonsense began. I HAD decided I would never spank her, cos MY parents took it WAY too far with me, BUT she went through the ‘terrible twos’ early. She was SO defiant it was unbelievable. Sometimes I would smack her butt, only SHE had on a thick diaper, and it really DID hurt me more than it did her! In frustration, I called a child psychologist. He said she was too young to profit from what he offered, but he told me to buy a book called ‘Dare to Discipline’ by James Dobson. I rushed out and bought it immediately. In it he stresses the importance of consistency. Meaning that if you make rules you must follow through each time your child breaks those rules, swiftly and surely. NO counting to ten. No laughing it off one time and punishing the next for the same infraction. Setting limits. ALSO (this part is ‘missing’ in the newer editions) he advised if your child was still in diapers that you buy yourself a wooden spoon, preferably a flat one with a hole in the middle, (used for pasta I think). Anyway, if the child refuses to obey, you would smack him/her ‘smartly’ on the bottom (ONLY). It didn’t really cause pain, but the noise would get their attention, plus you didn’t hurt your own hand!) It took less than a month, I swear, before my daughter was ‘toeing the line’ every time. I made sure she knew that spoon was in my bag before we left home. (Part of Dr. Dobson’s advice) I NEVER…and I SWEAR to this…had to use it after that first month. (I DID still give her a ‘three count’ to obey, but NOT ONE, TWO, TWO and a HALF, TWO and three quarters…etc. Just one, two, three, with about a second between each count. BTW, this book, in it’s modern incarnation, is available as a free download several places on the web. I suggested it to all of my friends back in the day, and even WITHOUT the ‘spoon trick’ it’s still a valuable resource. (Although I DO tell people about the spoon!) If only more people would follow this advice, spanking would not really be needed. Only, most parents these days are just too lazy to follow it all. And, I agree…bratty kids and rotten…even dangerous…teens are the norm today. It’s so disheartening. (Oh, my daughter now uses my old, dogeared copy of the book. My grandkids are as great as she was!)
by Carolina
On June 21, 2011 at 3:14 pm
BTW…I forgot to mention that when I would use my bare hand to spank her butt, she would put her little hands on her little hips and just give me a ‘dirty look’. She didn’t cry. The spoon, on the other hand, DID get her attention. She STILL didn’t cry, but you KNEW she was listening after that! It made a nice ‘thwack’ sound on the diaper and rubber pants. It never, however, left a mark. (You don’t ‘beat’ them, one smack on the butt is IT!) It also did NOT ‘break her spirit’. She simply focused her spirit in other places…such as gymnastics, and later on school, debate, diving team, etc. I imagine a wooden spoon would be considered a ‘weapon’ these days. But, between you, me and the fencepost, it is one of the most effective tools you can use for a diapered toddler. If you are a parent, I urge you to read this book. (And, I am NOT affiliated in any way with the author. Did I mention you can now get it for FREE?)
by Melanie
On June 21, 2011 at 3:32 pm
I used to have to go out and pick out my own switch so my dad could switch my bottom…I absolutely believe in spanking! Becuase I never wanted to get switched or spanked, I tended to stay away from things that I could do to get in trouble…dah!
by Melanie
On June 21, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Oh yea and my mom would use the wooden spoon on my butt…ouch! But again, it kept me out of trouble and from smarting off to my parents!
by Beth
On June 21, 2011 at 3:53 pm
That’s so stupid. I was spanked as a child and it did leave red marks but they go away that same day. Has spanking become illegal in Texas?
by Rachael
On June 21, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I agree with most people on here saying that children now days think they can get away with anything because parents cant smack their kids. then when they get out into the “real” world they break the rules and then they are faced with jail as their first taste of real discipline. No wonder kids have gone wild and think the world owes them.
by Melonie
On June 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Wow, hard to believe so many “parents” still believe in spanking. Enough is enough. The studies are conclusive… kids you are spanked have lower i.q.’s, tend more toward violence, and generally don’t feel a safe/healthy amount of respect for their bodies from the people who are supposed to protect them the most… their parents. Would you hit your spouse? Your mom? Then why your child? He/she is even more fragile and what you’re telling them, in no uncertain terms, is violence is good when someone upsets you. Violence works. Period. PLEASE stop being lazy. Read the books that have been published by the experts. Get off your high-horses “I know best”, no, if you spank, obviously, you don’t.
by wm
On June 21, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Why do you think we were made with so much padding in the butt???
by Hannah
On June 21, 2011 at 9:29 pm
I for one believe this is a mismanagement of government time and money. Also I’ll reiterate what I saw another parent mention -when did the government turn into the parents of our children- or have more say in how we discipline them if we are not being “violent” with them and abusing them??
by tb838